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transcript: how yoga can positively transformyour body and mind at any age. from a female and male perspective. maggie: ​hi, my name is maggie i am theowner of green tea yoga. i’m a yoga instructor. i started practicing when i was 19 years old.i had moved to the new england area from the midwest and when i arrived here it was thestimuli increased tremendously so i had moved



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yoga to the people podcast, from a very quiet town to a very hectic, chaoticplace and i started realizing that i was more stressed out, i had more anxiety, i couldn’tbreathe like i could before, i couldn’t slow down and i was kind of losing who i waswhen i moved out here. ​so i walked into a class at the y in walthamand i started practicing and from then on


i just continued my practice. i had taughtas an occupational therapist, i was working with a lot of children in schools and differentcenters, outpatient centers and i started implementing a lot of yoga with these children,children who had problems with coordination, problems settling, problems focusing or balanceissues. and i noticed a tremendous effect with these kids; they grew, they became moreoutgoing, they talked a lot more. and so i decided to go and get back my training innewburyport and from that point on i started teaching about 10 years ago and ever sincei have been a yoga teacher. jerry: ​hi, my name is jerry urban. i’ma yoga teacher here at green tea yoga amongst other studios. i discovered my yoga in lawhen i lived out there. i had been working


out at the gym a little bit and i noticedthat every time i had an injury i would kind of go towards the yoga classes. like i tell everybody else there were a lotof cute girls going into one specific room and i couldn’t figure out why so i tooka peek and there they were doing yoga and it looked like it was a little bit challenging.i thought it might be kind of fun and i then had a few friends that went to classes andwent and told me that i should give it a try. ​and so i did and i liked it a lot and inever really… i was going back and forth between yoga and working out and i think uponmoving to boston i just found that it became more of a place that i liked to come into,it would kind of ground me. there were moments


when i was going through and on grounding. and so it felt like that was something thati was drawn to and it felt like it calmed me and gave me a little bit of centering.and so from that point on i went to kripalu to do my first 200 hours and i think i jumpedright into shreya training right after that in which i am still evolving in the training.and yeah, that’s kind of how i got into what i did with that. ​i didn’t have any background in, likemaggie had for occupational therapy. it was more about what was good for me and what ineeded at the time and when i started yoga i could even touch my toes. and so it wasa practice over time. and i think i started


somewhere in my 30s i’m thinking like 33when i first started doing yoga and so it’s been a long process. i am 50 now and i canstill touch my toes which is an amazing thing. paul: ​so maggie, why should a woman considerdoing yoga and what are the benefits for her? maggie: ​when i think women today, theyare constantly multitasking, they are feeling very stressed, they have a full-time job,a lot of children, responsibilities at home with their families; women are overwhelmedtoday and they are feeling the stress. ​so they get into yoga, one great thingis just decreasing stress, it’s giving them time to be alone, to turn inward, to shutoff the mind. another important part of it is it helps sleep; a lot of women especiallyas we age, we get up as your cooking the morning


and you have a difficult time going back tobed. so you notice through a regular practice you sleep much better and you find that. ​and of course women we are always worriedabout bodies and how we look and the expectation, especially for women as you age, guys you’vegot it a lot easier, as you age the expectations of staying beautiful and thin and toned andall of these things, women feel that. so they come to yoga and they don’t… we don’tlike to just work out, we don’t like to go to the gym and sit there on a treadmill,it’s kind of an art so you can move your body in all sorts of different positions andit’s challenging but it’s graceful in a flowing way putting these pieces togetherwith your body and really connecting with


your body. so i think just overall helping with decreasingstress, your body, your health and sleeping at night. paul: ​so jerry, why would a man be interestedor benefit from yoga? jerry: ​most men come to it because theyeither have tightness in their hamstrings or shoulders, they haven’t been able totouch their toes much less see their toes sometimes. so for them, it’s more aboutthe physical issues and the longevity of what we come into because sometimes you wake upand you just don’t want to get out of bed; back hurts, your shoulder hurts, there’sa lot of physical laborers out there that


yoga would benefit because we don’t oftentake the time or structure our days around a release, everything is go, go, go we’vegot to get this done, we’ve got to do that, time to get home, put the kids to bed. andby the time the day is ending, you are about ready to go to bed and you wake up again andstart all over. and sometimes you just need to shut the other stuff out, focus on selffor a while and we don’t often do that, to come into ourselves and really, reallyprocess the getting rid of stuff. ​and so when you connect to the mat andyou place your hands and feet on the ground, it’s a great place to just kind of connect.and when you start to breathe and get that breath flowing in the head, sometimes theideas kind of just out slowly, it is still


there circulating but it will drip out slowlyand so at some point it becomes just you and the practice and nothing else around you.​we often come in with a lot of stuff and after you are done with the practice it feelslike you might be a bit lighter, a little less weighted down. and over time with theconsistency of the practice, allows you to actually, on a physical level, get into adeeper more gracious aspect between you and your muscles because we don’t often giveourselves much praise or thanks, we are always hard on ourselves and this is a place whereyou can really appreciate what you have or don’t have and work towards a place thatyou can appreciate. paul: ​so i think you both touched on thisbut what are three clear benefits that both


men and women will get from starting yoga? maggie: ​for women one of the things isdefinitely strength; physically and mentally and emotionally; being able to have the confidenceand the strength to get through the day. we are always bombarded with challenges, thingswe can’t control and being able to find within, a place of balance of calmness, strength.i think probably that’s one of the most important things. ​and then also is just being able with yourbody just been able to keep your body mobile as we age through life, being able to be flexibleand find the movement and again preventing any injuries and just knowing where your bodyis in space. so sometimes we’re just moving


throughout life and when not really presentwith our body that connection is not there so finding that body connection and againjust reiterating, sleep at night i think yoga really helps you sleep well. so it gives youthat by balance to sleep throughout the night so when you get up in the morning your niceand refreshed and ready to go the next day. paul: ​and jerry, for men? jerry: ​first aspect is the quality of bothstrength and stretch. when people look into a room, yoga room and they think, “thatlooks like it’s a little bit difficult stretch wise” because for men we are more focusedon the billing aspect then the releasing or stretching out the muscle afterwards. we alwaysgo in for the pump and not for the release.


​and so in yoga when you are practicingyour actually creating retention in the muscles so that you’re strengthening at the sametime and when you start to strengthen maybe drawing like feet together toward one anotherin a warrior pose, you are creating resistance and that resistance in essence is releasinganother muscle so that you can settle into the pose a little bit more. and it’s notjust about stretching but it’s about creating that and that strengthening within the yogapractice isn’t about the way that we look but it’s a way to kind of release the energyin our head. when we are refining the muscle, strengthening and stretching, we are intoa place where we are not comparative so much anymore.


​and so you’re not trying to compete necessarilyand it’s more, that’s when you start to draw into yourself and the focus becomes moreabout being on the mat and what you are doing for yourself and the focus again draws intothe aspect of coming into oneself rather than trying to please everybody else. ​because if you are unhappy and you’retrying to please all of these people, you’re probably pushing more than you are drawingin and so when you start to realize that you don’t have to have all of this outward energygoing out all of the time but if you focus on yourself and you focus on cleaning outthe crap inside of your life, it’s kind of like cleaning your closet out and everyonce in a while we have to do that. and so


your focus, when your mind is unclutteredbecomes clearer, you can see a little bit broader than that narrow vision and sometimesthat lends itself to you may be reaching out into a more expansive quality in things thatyou can absorb in life. ​if you are like this, there is a lot ofstuff on the outside that you’re not going to see and so when we start to release theclutter and open up that vision there’s a lot more that we’re going to take in inthis life because it’s not just about what’s in front of us all the time and that’s areally important quality in what i think yoga can give us. did i go through three there?i hope i did. paul: ​i think you got it. all right maggie,let’s look at stages of life from being


a kid to being 20, thirty-something, middle-agedand then beyond. how can yoga helped in each of those stages? maggie: ​so i’m starting with children,especially young girls. i teach a lot of kids classes and you see more and more pressureon these young children, especially girls, boys too but already seven, eight-year-oldchildren, the pressure of looking a certain way, wearing certain types of clothes, thename brands, wearing your hair a certain way and you have children picking on each other,making fun of one another they come in here very stressed already at a young age. ​so when i’m working with them, we starta lot with breath. we do a lot of breath work,


we talk a lot about the yamas and niyamasof yoga. we talk about ahimsa nonviolence, self-esteem, working through things, how tobe better friends, how to be… how to come from the heart center space instead of judging. ​so from the very beginning if you can startyoung, that’s the best place to start. i mean it’s great to start anytime you canbut they are open, they are intuitive, they are ready to take it in. so children nowadaysthey really need yoga, it’s very stressful with all the homework, the sports that theyare involved in. they are just being judged all the time or other children and i thinkthe breath work, the body movement and the self-esteem piece of the yoga practice forchildren is really important.


​and then moving on to teens or adults especiallyfor adults as you get older, you realize, “oh my gosh what did i do in life? wheream i now?” maybe the kids are finally out of the house, maybe you are the place youdon’t want to be at anymore so you start to find a practice and you start to realize,“this isn’t my truth, this isn’t where i want to be at this moment.” ​so you start practicing, you gain confidence,you gain strength, you become more aware. i think that’s a huge step in the middleage adult population, is awareness and then you realize, “oh, i need to make some changesin my life. i am working too hard, i am not balancing my life, i am not eating well, i’mnot resting well, i am not exercising,”


and you start practicing yoga. even if it’s for the asana or the posesof the physical part, you start to see a transformation within. you see that you are more flexible,that you can sleep at night, that you have more energy, that you can tolerate thingsbetter. you feel that you are more connected to people and you feel more bonded with theworld whereas before you were just rushing through it. so i think it’s important inthat age because there is a lot of change happening in that period. ​and then as you get even older and everyoneis out of the house, you may or may not be with your partner still, you start to divedeeper within finding that spirituality so


you really find a connection within. it’sa part of your life that you realize everything is passed by and i realize my life is temporaryand things are always changing. so you get into the practice. i find a lot of older women come to my classesto just meditate or relax. they come to just be present and they love the community, theywant to be around other people, they let go of all of the expectations, they let go ofthe physical, they let go of the judgment and now they are really in tune with who theyare and what they want in life and yoga just continues to have them evolve physically aswell because they are more flexible, they are more mobile, they don’t feel like theyare going to fall, their spine is more malleable


and mobile as well so they just feel muchbetter. and they tell me that all the time, “i havean injury but it’s feeling better as i practice.” or, “i am able to sleep better,” or “iam able to move better,” “i have been playing this game with my friend…” whateverit is they notice changes in their body, their emotions, their mental state and everything. paul: ​i think she said it all. jerry: ​i know right. with regards to kids,there is huge energy. and for just that little bit of moment if you have them in class andthey are able to sit down and find a moment where they can close their eyes and feel justa stillness they may not realize what’s


going on but for them it’s fun because theydon’t often stop. they are always go, go, go explore, explore, explore so it’s reallygreat to get them in touch with that. and it may not be anything that they would getin touch with for a while. it may be that they would come into it in their teens orin their 20s or maybe later in life like me and that the realization comes in but overtime it does. ​with regards to teens, they are going througha lot of hormonal changes and learning to adapt breath in the physical body can sometimeshelp alter what’s going on inside the body or help us adapt to that physical change sothat it doesn’t become such a dramatic place to be especially the hormones make us justgo out in different directions and when you


are emptying and clearing the mind becominga little more focused that the anxieties and the things and the distractions aren’t asprominent i don’t think. and as a young adult or an older adult again,the physical aspect, if we are starting to get into her 30s and 40s we’re going, “dammit,i wish i have started this way earlier.” but the fact is it’s like you can’t alwayslook in the past, you just work yourself forward and go, “okay i’m going to go with thisand see what happens.” ​a lot of times people get overwhelmed bythe fact that it’s really hard. they think, “oh, that looks pretty easy,” until theyactually get in there and they go, “that’s really hard.” then it becomes a mind thing,“am i going to stick with it or not?”


and more often than not it becomes, it’sthat type of thing where it’s like, “i can’t do this,” and sometimes you cando it right then and maybe you will come back to it later. ​or if you stick it out just like anythingin life and you put a little focus into it, little bit of effort, not the effort of willfulnessbut the effort to really realize that there is the potential in un-weighting yourselfthat it could ultimately leave you in a more elated a space, a grounded space, freer forthe physical body and a nice place where you can settle in if you can sit for a moment.because we feel like we always have to go for a moment and not taking anything or notleave anything behind but just kind of sit


with the stuff that you have and say, “it’sokay to be here.” and each day you sit with that presents alittle bit longer. and soon we are old, we are seniors, we are walking around all hunchedover, or we are actually rolling the shoulders back, standing up and we have our vision forwardbut sometimes it’s that the focus doesn’t, and i’m going, “oh, i wish i had donethat.” there is the time, you can do it anytime. paul: ​what should people be looking forin a yoga teacher? maggie: ​all right. so i think when youare looking for a teacher definitely look at the training, that’s a big part of itbut you have to look and see if they are personable,


if there somebody you can relate to, somebodywho is not up there just showing off, somebody who is going to walk around and adjust you,talk to you, ask you if you need anything, someone you feel comfortable enough with toraise your hand and say, “i don’t know what the hell i’m doing, can you come overand please help me?” and that person is more than welcome to come over and help youand adjust you giving you props. ​i think also a teacher saying to you, “pleasebe aware of your own body, you are the best teacher for yourself. if you have any injuries,medical conditions, let me know. tell me about them so i can help you through the process.” jerry: ​i like to go to different teachersbecause each one has something different to


say; an aspect of reflection may be a motivationalthing. and so it’s about exploring and through life we tend to explore anyways. but you aregoing to hear a voice that you like and probably a voice that you don’t like. i have another teacher that says sometimesshe goes to classes and teachers that she doesn’t like because it’s not about them,it’s about you. and so you have to experience the things that aren’t necessarily comfortableand know that those things are going to happen every day and maybe sit and see if you canchange the aspect where it’s not something. ​but i really, really, for me is to hearwhat the teacher has to offer. i mean you’re going to get a lot of the same instructionswith regard to the physical movements, not


necessarily the same but roughly but it’swhat you’re going to pull out of it and it might be a snippet, something that theysay and go, “god you know what, if i could do that every day,” just one thing. andso for me the focus on the teacher is what they have to offer or somebody who can explainthis. maggie: ​on that note sometimes i avoidedthe teachers when i need to be there, that’s the place i need to be the most but i havean aversion to it and i need to go and be there and stay with it the whole entire time.sometimes i’ll avoid teachers who are really, really, really slow but that’s where i needto be. jerry: ​yeah.


maggie: ​so it’s nice to be open to everything. jerry: ​exactly. it’s probably why shedoesn’t come to my class all the time. maggie: ​no, you’re awesome! i’m alwaysthere! paul: ​what should people look for in yogastudios? maggie: ​you want to start? jerry: ​i think if you walk into a placethat feels warm and inviting, i tend to like a warmer studio than a colder studio but nothot. for me i love hot in the wintertime, hate it in the summertime. ​if the people are nice when you walk inand they are inviting you in your like, “okay,


yeah i will come in and try it out.” buti think it’s just a feeling again, search it out and see. but knowing that there isa whole slew of teachers, you want to be willing to put money out and know that those teachersare going to support you and your practice and that’s a really big thing. because whenyou’re buying class cards and month-long’s you want to make sure that there is enoughclasses to support that. maggie: ​i do agree with the jerry on variety.i think the right is very important to come in and say, “oh, i would like to try a restorativeclass. maybe i would like to try a yin class. maybe i am going to power it up today withthis power hour class,” something that gives a variety so i can buy a class card and trythem all.


​i also think you need to go by your intuitionwhere you feel comfortable, where you can be yourself and feel like you can come inand wear anything you want, not worry about wearing the lu-lu lemon and all of those brand-nameclothing where you can just come in and be yourself entirely. and also for me a big partof it is like the way it looks, i know that sounds a little superficial but just to thecolors and the warmth that you were talking about, sometimes you can go into a studioand it feels very sterile. jerry: ​right. maggie: ​… and there are mirrors everywherewhen i am not the big mirror fan. so it’s nice to have a studio where you are just turninginward and you feel comfortable they are where


you can just take your shoes off and relaxand be yourself 100%. paul: ​great. so a lot of activities andexercises we do require a lot of gear. how much gear do you need for yoga? maggie: ​nothing! you, your body! jerry: ​a mat you are comfortable with… maggie: ​yeah, that’s it. jerry: ​i’ve been through… i can’ttell you how many different mats until i found the one that i like. i’ll plug jade becausei really like them but i went, they have a fat mat that i started with because my kneeshurt and it was hard for me to be in poses


like ustrasan or camel pose.​ and then after a while i started getting moreadapted in my practice and then it felt better to be on a thinner mat so i went to a thinnermat. so find one that works for you because they are going to be different. most studioswill have blocks, some will have bolsters and blankets and straps. so i would say moststudios will have what you need, not everybody carries bolsters because that’s a littlebit more for strategy if they do more restorative practices than they probably will have them.maggie: ​yeah and i mean honestly, you need a mat maybe if that, a blanket if you wantto start with… jerry: ​in fashionable yoga…


maggie: ​… yeah! comfortable clothingfor sure. water, sometimes i just tell people to bring different layers of clothing; theycan get chilly, some people want to warm it up so they put on extra layers otherwise isvery simple, you really don’t need much at all. jerry: ​yeah, water is probably importanttoo. maggie: ​water. paul: ​that was great guys, thank you somuch for being on the lifehackrdiet podcast and youtube channel. it’s been great chattingto you both. maggie: ​thank you for having us!


jerry: ​thank you. maggie: ​thanks!




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